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Old 03-31-2009, 11:23 AM
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Default dead guppies!!!!!!!!!!

hi,
well the weekend i got two tanks set them up ready to cycle.
went and got 4 lovely guppies(which i thought where hardy??)
put 2 in each tank (7 gall 30 litres)
first morning one dead so took it back to shop and they exchanged it,
got back other one in that tank dead???
emptied tank start again add new fish
other tank 2 dead this morning
now checked other dead so now no fish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
checked water fine temp fine
was warned about this place wished i`d took the advice now
shall not be going there again!!
live and learn sad day
cleaned all tanks ready to start again!!
sorry just needed to vent my anger
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Old 03-31-2009, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: dead guppies!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to hear of your experience.

I always get a new tank set up and let it run for a month before adding any fish, and once the water parameters are good then I add fish.

I purchased nine guppies many months ago and of those nine I think I have three left. However, my tank with the guppies has had many batches of fry (I keep a few to keep my population up and sell the ones I don't want).

I wouldn't say guppies are hardy as they have always seemed to me to be more suseptable to certain disease (like fin rot), but they are prolific (as in they throw many offspring in a short time). The guppies that have been imported in the last few years seem to be weeker and more suseptable to disease than guppies in prior years (many articles on the web about this).

What are your water parameters? Did you put any water conditioner into the tank when you added the water (chlorine and chloramines will have a negative impact on any aquatic life except plants)

My guppy tank is 20 gallons with five or six adult guppies, many guppy fry, eight neon tetras, a collony of red cherry shrimp and live plants.

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Old 03-31-2009, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: dead guppies!!!!!!!!!!

Suddenly putting new fish in raw water is definately not good for them....Before you kill any more fish go back and re read the article on cycling at the top of this page.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: dead guppies!!!!!!!!!!

hi dano,
i didnt just put them in raw water??
i had added the cycle conditioner and safe tap,
as i thought that was correct with doing a fish cycle?
once you have the fish in you keep an eye on your
water readings and do water changes?
so am i wrong here?
this is how i did my other 2 tanks but have been told
guppies are not as hardy as people say they are.
thanks for any advice
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Old 03-31-2009, 10:02 PM
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Default Re: dead guppies!!!!!!!!!!

You did not say you put chemicals in the water before you added the fish...You did not say whether the water temp was correct for the fish....You did not say how long the water had been set up before adding the fish...You did not say that you slowly acclimated the fish....I don't think you mentioned the water conditions before you added the fish... (ph, ammonia, nitrate, ect)

You emptied the tank then put more fish in...............They died too!!.....I am not inclined to think that the fish were defective or the dealer's tank would have been full of dead ones....The water shocked them and they died!!

Again!...read this...http://www.tropicalfishforum.net/showthread.php?t=611
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Old 03-31-2009, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: dead guppies!!!!!!!!!!

I can agree with Dave and Dano here. You should let the water regulate its chemicals and conditions for at least a month, even longer if you want your fish to live longer. Don't keep starting over as this kills all the good bacteria in your tank and can only kill your fish quicker. It's difficult to be patient right now but what a month till both the tanks water is normal. If you have any fish alive in those tanks, take them out and save them before they die.

You're right about the water changes however just give your tank time to relax until you start doing them. Also when you put new water after you condition it, let it sit for an hour. Then turn on the filter, then the heater after an hour and the air pump. And as Dave said, guppies are not as hardy as people say, but i suggest just a fish less cycle at this point.
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